I think I just spent one of the longest nights of my life and I’ve had a few. And if you thought the last post was long…
I arranged for a job with Tina (and the possibility of working with Dave on another project) that would allow Pascal and me to get by financially for a while. M. and I talked and hammered out a deal to let him finish school and start work before he had to move out (in return, we’d stay legally married long enough for me to finish school using his GI Bill…but there would be no other financial support even while he lived here). It’s the first time I’ve ever put a plan to leave my marriage into place and it broke my heart.
Yesterday convinced me that it was impossible for me to do that. I’ve cried over loss before, but not knowing that the other person was still just a few feet away from me and would be for months on end. I knew it would be impossible for me to get past the failure of our marriage with him still in the house, no matter how I’d suffer financially. Last night, I told him that. It was the first time we had said more than a few words to each other in days.
A lot of things came tumbling out of him that I didn’t know about. He explained the incident with the playstation and Pascal barking by saying, “I figured if I was what was making you cry, you wouldn’t want to see me.” He told me that he still wants kids and that what makes him uncomfortable about testing, etc. is that it’s more failure and he already feels like a failure because he’s not working. This has come up before when we fought. He’s always saying he wants to get a job, but I’ve always told him no because what he’d make working a graveyard or afternoon shift here would barely cover the expenses of taking the job. I didn’t realize he wanted the job for more reasons than just money. He wants some measure of control over his life back, and the psychologist in me can’t help but see this as a good sign for him (as a wife, I’m uneasy about it because there is a measure of lost trust because of his online infidelity in the past, but it is my fear and my issue, not his…and in all fairness, I was uneasy about the possibility of him meeting someone else when he was in the Army too…if you’ve been on a military base, you won’t say I’m wrong about that…there are many female soldiers and civilians on bases that spend a great deal of their time trying to get a man and quite a high percentage of them don’t care how they do it…Dave calls them barracks bunnies). I can hardly say he’s wrong for wanting to be more independent. We have spent all but 3-5 hours a day together for almost two years straight. And I’ve never denied that he’s henpecked (I might excuse it but I don’t deny it).
At the end of the night a few things were clear: Neither of us wants to divorce the other. There is a need for more independence. For the moment at least, we’re still going to try to have children (this was larglely M.’s decision…I assumed he’d want to put it on the back burner for a while…but I had already taken my Clomid for this month and he wants me to opk test…in fact, he wants us to keep using the Clomid we’ve already bought…but we’re not going to worry about taking any further action for now…we won’t have to make those decisions for over 6 months anyhow). Pascal can’t take stress like this any better than we can (he’s peed on the carpet after being taken out, barked and jumped at me when I was crying, and woke up howling like he’s having nightmares). And, SOMETIMES Picard is right especially when he says that a man needs to feel useful (.
M. asked to move his things back to our room, and I reminded him that I had never told him to leave it.
He’s happy and relieved. I’m not comforted at all because now I know that and end-game is in place. There is a pre-planned “out” and that makes me nauseous. M. and I have always bickered like a couple in their 70’s might, but that’s all it’s ever been just noise. Even through the torture of his infidelity and through living with no income at all after he left the Army (it took several months before our current incomes kicked in) we managed to get past it and start over. After the infidelity, it took me nearly a year to get over the resentment and anger, but our life has improved over the past months (I’ve stopped throwing it up to him, and even though I may always be the initiator, our sex life was back to what it was pre-infidelity). That being said, I can’t help but wonder if the third time is the charm or if the I-Ching is right when the reading I did (pre-talk) said that we were at a turning point and “breaking through”.
Teeni tagged me for a meme the other day, and I think this is an appropriate time to tell ya’ll about the song that makes me cry. “Sometimes Love Just Ain’t Enough” is an old song and it’s hard to find. Don Henley and Patty Smyth did it as a duet in 1992. Here are the lyrics:
Sometimes Love Just Ain’t Enough
I don’t wanna lose you,
but I don’t wanna use you
Just to have somebody by my side
And I don’t wanna hate you
I don’t wanna take you
But I don’t wanna be the one to cry
That don’t really matter to anyone, anymore
But like a fool I keep losing my place
And I keep seeing you walk through that door
But there’s a danger in loving somebody too much
And it’s sad when you know it’s your heart you can’t trust
There’s a reason why people don’t stay where they are
Baby sometimes love just ain’t enough
Now I could never change you
I don’t wanna blame you
Baby you don’t have to take the fall
Yes I may have hurt you
But I did not desert you
Maybe I just wanna have it all
It makes a sound like thunder
It makes me feel like rain
And like a fool who will never see the truth
I keep thinking something’s gonna change
But there’s a danger in loving somebody too much
And it’s sad when you know it’s your heart you can’t trust
There’s a reason why people don’t stay where they are
Baby sometimes love just ain’t enough
And there’s no way home
When it’s late at night and you’re all alone
Are there things that you wanted to say
Do you feel me beside you in your bed
There beside you where I used to lay
And there’s a danger in loving somebody too much
And it’s sad when you know it’s your heart they can’t touch.
There’s a reason why people don’t stay who they are
Cause baby sometimes love just ain’t enough.
Baby sometimes love just ain’t enough.
Yes, it is a break up song. Let’s hope I don’t need to play it ever again.
I’m tagging: Ginger (well, duh), Mag’s at Nanny Goats in Panties (hate the knickname? and I see why you abbreviate NGiP lol), KC (that bit about “city style” was the only thing that made me laugh yesterday), Marie (who hasn’t been around all that long), Evil Twin’s Wife (we need to get you a name fake or otherwise…you know, Ginger’s is her porn name) and Slyde and Ron (lord knows, we need male perspective around here *cough*).
Despite the song and uneasiness, I am feeling better. Maybe I’m being an idiot, but I guess only time will tell (and if it turns out I am…I encourage you to say you told me so). We are wildly out of balance and for better or for worse (there goes that phrase again) we’re going to have to address it now instead of waiting until M. is done with school. So, M. will be putting in applications, and I will be working with Tina on a very limited basis. And by this evening, I will be visiting ya’ll to see what I’ve missed.
I want to thank you each and every one from the bottom of my heart. I’ve never had more than one or two close friends in real life; I’ve always preferred quality over quantity. You’ve changed my mind about that. Right now, I wish there were some way we could have a giant sleepover so I could hug each and every one of you in person.
Love, Anna (& M.)






Wow. So much is going on for you. It looks like a big shakeup was in the works for a while though. I do hope things will settle down and find their proper place for you. I am keeping you in my thoughts and prayers. That is a fantastic song – the lyrics are great and very touching.
By: teeni on August 7, 2008
at 11:48 am
I am thrilled that things are better in the honeywine household. I bet Pascal will be better now as you know they take it the hardest.
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Thanks for tagging me for the meme! I have never been tagged now I shall go try to find a song to cry too.
By: Marie on August 7, 2008
at 12:02 pm
Oh my goodness, what a load you’re holding! Good thing you can dump it on us anytime you feel like it! How cool is that?
Here’s a big fat cyber-hug for ya!
OK, tag, I’m “it”!
Margaret
By: Nanny Goats on August 7, 2008
at 12:41 pm
Sorry things are difficult right now. I hope things settle down soon for you. Thanks for tagging me for the meme, but as men do not cry I will instead try to find a song that I believe might make me cry if men did cry…. LOL
By: Ron on August 7, 2008
at 1:06 pm
God Bless honey! I will be praying for both of you. I really hope you all can make it work!
((((HUGS))))
By: Heather on August 7, 2008
at 1:35 pm
I’m glad you two have worked toward a solution that can help further the success of the marriage. As long as you’re both willing to put your all into it, there’s a fighting chance there! Good for you.
I’ll work on the meme. I know so many good songs I could choose. And you can abbreviate it ETW, if you want. Lots of people do. I answer to almost anything.
By: Evil Twin's Wife on August 7, 2008
at 1:52 pm
I am glad that there is a little bit stability now. Marriage/Relationships are so hard. I am proud that you talked it out last night. Those talk are hard but they are important.
By: Karen on August 7, 2008
at 2:37 pm
So glad to hear you’re both talking. So important in a marriage!
By: DrowseyMonkey on August 7, 2008
at 7:19 pm
I think you’re amazingly brave and clearly very strong. The best of everything, I wish for you
By: Laura on August 7, 2008
at 7:45 pm
I’m glad y’all are gonna try to stick it out. The song that makes me cry (on the inside) every time I hear it is Jet’s “Look What You’ve Done.”
By: gingermagnolia on August 7, 2008
at 11:11 pm
Hi Anna! I’m so glad things are working out for you and M. Reading your post makes my morning (in my side of the world) more beautiful. During the earlier part of my relationship, when things were not working out, I told my dear partner ‘love just ain’t enough.” But after 9 years and 6 months, we’re still together because we just love each other.
By: maricel on August 9, 2008
at 7:43 pm
Just a quick note of thanks to you all. Yes, things are changing, but that’s life. I was prepared for them to change once he finished school (hopefully by December depending on the schedule), but if we’re going to make it, I guess now is the time.
Maricel got me thinking. I think it takes a lot more to keep two people together when there aren’t kids involved. So often people say, “We’re staying together for the children.” Those of us who don’t have kids have to find other reasons to stay. I don’t know if that’s a good thing or if it’s a bad thing. I guess those on the outside think that “at least you don’t have kids” let’s you walk away and breath easier. Love and life are never quite that easy.
By: honeywine on August 10, 2008
at 9:11 am
OK now I read this and see you’re feeling better . . .
Good–I was stressed for you after the last post.
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at 8:52 pm
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